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. >> there is another story tonight regarding kathleen sebelius. she returned to capitol hill to answer questions on the problems with the obama care rollout and the law itself. the president's promise that if you like your plan you can keep it. watch this. >> the white house website says if you like your plan, you can keep it and you don't have to change a thing due to the health care law. we know that lying to congress is a crime. unfortunately lying to the american people is not. i'd just like to ask you a simple true or false question. is that statement on the white house website true? or is it false? >> sir, i think the statement -- >> is it true or false, madam secretary? >> the vast majority of american who is are insured are in the employer market, are in public plans or veterans plans. those plans have stayed in place and continued to offer benefits. >> republican john cornin of texas is a member of the senate finance committee. he's with me now. why is it impossible to get a straight answer on this critical issue to the american people? >> you know, if we were in a courtroom the judge w
and human services secretary kathleen sebelius answers questions from the senate finance committee. susan mcginnis has the latest from washington. susan, good morning. >> good morning, anne-marie. this will be the third time she comes to the hill to talk about the health care law. she'll likely focus on the positive aspects of it and the improvements they've made to the website. that's what mary tavenner did. probably neither of them will apiece all the critics of the website and the health care law. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is on capitol hill today answering questions about the troubled healthcare.gov website. >> we're now more than 30 days into one of the greatest website disasters in history. after nearly $400 million, healthcare.gov is synonymous with failure. >> yesterday the head of the government agency administers the website says fixes are working. mary tavenner says healthcare.gov can now process nearly 17,000 people registering every hour with almost no errors. the government needs more enrollees, especially healthy young people to help make insurance
. blaming the webse designers will absolvinghimself in a dhs secretary kathleen sebelius. >> trying to shift the focus to new orleans, president obama could not note that he has been frustrated with healtcare.gov. >> i want to go into and fix it myself. >> he was not quite as lighthearted and nbc news when he made it sound like itwas a political crisis before catching himself. >> given tha i have be burned already with a website, more importantly, the people he been burned by website. >> is embattled health chiefs have was in atlata is apologizing for a flood website. and she made a new pledge that the administration wl find a way to deawith cancellation notices. though she was vague about how they will be that. >> we are looking at a number of options whe there may be an opportunity for that numberof people to look at planshat they have right now. but there isn't any specific proposal at the table mmediately. >> she was also hit with questis about her own future. >> she said she believes the president does have her back. one day after he did not directly answer a question about whether he s
and right it. thank you so much, gentlemen. on the road, hhs head kathleen sebelius hoping to boost enrollment numbers and maybe set the record straight this time. getting back to normal in 2017 goldman's latest look at jobs in america. a government grab for nba star kobe bryant, the laker due to make $24 million today, 14 of it goes right to uncle sam. and $300,000 lost in an instant. a ferrari in the wrong place at the wrong time. that is not some graphic we made up, that is something that happened in new york. all that and so much more. connell mcshane is here too. this hour of "markets now" starts now. ♪ ♪ dagen: i was trying to get your name in there. connell: hey, all right. let's do this -- dagen: mcshane's here. connell: yeah, that'll tease 'em up, get things going. markets up, and, well, everything's good unless you're kathleen sebelius out on the road -- dagen: or the driver of that ferrari that got crushed. connell: also not good. nicole petallides joins us to start things off. >> reporter: and i'm good, i'm doing well here on the floor of the new york stock exchange.
in with libby casey on capitol hill. libby, boy, the secretary of health and human services, kathleen sebelius, was back on capital little todacapitol hillt seat facing difficult questions on the roll out of obamacare. >> reporter: she got some friendly questions from democrats who are trying to use the bellows to say the law is working, helping people, right? she also got tough questions from fellow democrats including this senate committee chairman max bacchus, democrat from montana. he helped write the law, and he has a lot at stake. he warned secretary sebelius back in the spring if the rollout was not handled well, and the obama administration did not get out ahead of it, it could be a train wreck. >> this is unacceptable. it has been disappointing to hear members of the administration say they didn't see the problems coming. secretary sebelius, last time you came before this committee i used two words to voice my concerns about the law's implementation. since then my words have been twisted and used to malign the affordable care an act. make no mistake i believe in this law. >> reporter:
. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally. . >> kathleen sebelius was talking more on the failed health care roll out. in the concession speech, he repeatedly hammered it. >> this race goes down to the wire because of obama care. that message will go out across america tonight. this administration told us that virginians could keep their health insurance and their doctors and their costs wouldn't rise under obama care. that was not true. they knew it wasn't true. we were lied to by our own government in its effort to restrict our liberties. >> joined now with the report and also a fellow university of chicago institute. the editor of the report and a contributing writer for roll call. amy, give me more first take on what you learned yesterday that tells you something about 2013. >> the electorate in virginia mirrored the electorate in 2012 in terms of dem kbrf graphics. the president won by four points and auliffe by points. when you turn outlooks similar to the way it looked in a presidential election, that's good for democrats. i think the health care message will
or are we forever now governed by kathleen sebelius and obama care? is there hope? >> we have to keep fighting. we can't stop. i agree with tom. we have to get democrats on board in the senate. there are senators now in the democratic side of the aisle who are taking the heat on this. i will tell you, people are angry b about the this and upset. the fact is we have to keep the heat on. we've got to keep pushing. revealing, shedding light on all the flaws in this as we have been doing and not let up. >> is there any hope for this website? i talked to some i.t. guys, professionals, congressman price is laughing. >> yeah. >> after hundreds of millions of dollars, do we have to scrap it? >> absolutely. the problem isn't just the website. the problem is the program itself. but the website is a symptom of the entire challenge that we have when the government tries to tell you what doctor you must see. what health care coverage plan you must purchase and cross all of the things through the irs and other governmental entitieses. it isn't going to work. we have now spent pushing $600 million o
up. that's a fail rate of .1%. kathleen sebelius had the nerve to say the marketplace is working. if they were in a real marketplace and they had that kind of sales rate they would be going out of business. this is not working. >> they are in a position where they have to get 5 million -- that's the number that was cancelled. they have to get those 5 million signed up for insurance before a month from now. if they don't sign up by december 15 they don't have coverage january 1. according to our map, that means they need 156,000 sign-ups a day for the next 32 days just to break even. that's not counting the original 7 million they said they needed to make obama care work. >> even worse than that. you are being generous. they promised the american people -- president obama, november 6, by the end of the month we anticipate it will be working the way it is supposed to. by the end of november they promised the website would be working. starting december 1. everybody can go to health care.com and it will work like priceline. they have to have everybody signed up by the 15th. that's 15
not with the president who seems never to know about anything. but looking at kathleen sebelius, she still has a job after this big bungle. the bosses away and the cats are going to play. >> the president might be perfectly innocent in his own right, but the staff is running roughshod on him and not only on him by the constitution. >> there's a question as to how engaged the a's. an article about how he likes to invite columnists over to the white house to discuss their columns and viewpoints and sometimes this goes on for 2.5 hours and not sound like a lot of fun. i think i would like to do that and that is not governing. that's not the president of the united states should probably be doing. having 2.5 hour debate sessions. is the president of the united states and his governing responsibility here and you're getting the sense that he doesn't like the governing aspect of his job. he would rather engage in discourse with david brooks or someone else and not actually run the country. and that is disturbing. neil: on the signature piece of legislation, it's a remarkable achievement and then to drop t
kathleen sebelius. listen to this kind of haphazard answer about her performance. >> i think kathleen sebelius under difficult circumstances has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets so that there is a good product out there the for people to get. kathleen sebelius doesn't write code. she wasn't our i.t. person. ultimately the buck stops with me. i'm the president. this is my team. if it's not working, it's my job to get it fixed. >> does that sort of sound like accountability? >> this never happens with anybody who has any experience in the private sector. what you're dealing with right now, you're watching bureaucrats trying to run a business. in the private sector, the customer is always right. you never blame the customer. here, politicians, bureaucrats, they have the power of government behind you. the idea you actually matter as an individual is false. you can call something a substandard plan which dismisses your right to choose. behind all of this, which is really the story here, is the threat of force. if there was no threat of force behind obama care through t
do. it is all yours. connell: we will pick it up with kathleen sebelius on capitol hill. new question to ask about the obamacare rollout. and forcing many people to become better shoppers. whether they like it or not when it comes to quality and when it comes to cost. it is an entrepreneur who is helping patients to get ready. coming up as little bit later in the hour. prolabor candidates who did very well. so lou dobbs is coming in, he will tell us what this really means in his view. and watch out, pricey gift to his clients. it has the players union taking notice. all coming up this hour of "markets now." ♪ dagen: you could get me something similar. connell: no, don't want to have to report it to the union, even though we are not in one. it was a pretty expensive gifts, without giving it all away. dagen: if you are trying to check off your christmas list, there you go. stocks hit new highs, nicole petallides at the new york stock exchange. nicole: the dow jones industrials hitting a record all-time intraday high today of 15,732. still holding onto some nice gains of 69 points at t
person, kathleen sebelius said today. >> well, there isn't, i would say, at this point a specific plan. we're looking at a number of options where there may be an opportunity for that number of people to look at plans that they have right now, but there isn't any specific proposal at table immediately. >> well tonight, two republican senators are using new numbers to suggest that obama care is not working. senior white house correspondent jim acosta joins us now. the news doesn't seem to be getting better for obama care. the initial enrollment numbers are expected to be low but the numbers there in washington d.c. are pretty stunning. >> they are depressingly low, anderson. we have letters prom people that participate in the obama care exchange in the district of columbia and released by senators. i have one in front of me right now. it says that they have up until october 24th of this year only blue shield. that the a very dismal performance. i will tell you house republican haves been eager to get their hands on these enrollment numbers and issued a subpoena to have them delivered by
. >> we go back to capitol hill. no laughs there. kathleen sebelius once again was in the hot seat. max baucus who heads up the senate finance committee where she sat down at the witness table yesterday, remember he helped write the law. the last time she was there, he referred to the affordable care act implementation as a potential train wreck. he said he was unhappy with it. but bill nelson, the democrat from florida, summed it up when he was talking about the contractors responsible for the affordable care act website. he said, quote, i want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible. she would not agree to that. >> john cornyn actually -- this is the most incredible thing today. he actually -- john cornyn -- gets in there and says i have a simple question. the people that will have all of our information, which we're assuming might be at risk, is there a background check on them. listen to this conversation. >> isn't it true that there is no federal requirement for navigators to undergo a criminal background check even though they will receive personal --
a national picture from kathleen sebelius in a couple of weeks. but, in terms of, you you know, how many people signed on, how many people go on to look, only four actually signed up right now. when do you expect to get better numbers in delaware? >> well, to be clear, the four is simply the number of people who have enrolled through the help of these marketplace guides. >> got it. >> officials here in delaware say the actual number is higher. they won't say exactly what that number is. but i have been told it could be around 50 or so. but they won't release official enrollment numbers until next week. >> that's not a lot on othe way to 7 million nationwide that they are hoping to sign up. what are you hearing from people about how the system is going for them? are there a lot more trying to get on and they can't get on? delaware is obviously one of the states that has its own state exchange. not every state does. it was supposed to be a little bit easier in the states that actually did start their own, right? >> well, actually, delaware has a partnership exchange with the federal govern
's talking about what happened with the internet he says, they burned me. if i was kathleen sebelius i would not be picking out redecorating plans. >> he asked if she should be fired and whether she's still got his confidence. the president dodged it. he said do you have the full confidence of kathleen sebelius? he said, she didn't write the code. she would be the first to admit there would be a lot more questions asked. is she still the right person? he said the buck stops with me. if he were going to fire her, wouldn't it have already happened? >> no. we'll end up with a health care czar because they can't get b b somebody through the senate. they will let the whole rollout of disaster be her fault. after they are done they will launch her back to kansas and say, now meet this guy you have never heard of who is the new health czar because the evil republicans in the senate won't confirm our great choice. she needs to be there. if you're going to fire her, you have to keep her long enough to be to blame for everything. >> it's sick how things work in wash war. thank you. >> you bet. >> we a
requirement. >> secretary kathleen sebelius also acknowledge that the early enrollment figures for obamacare which are scheduled to be released next week will be very low. fox news tonight reporting a relatively new provision in obamacare, opening up the medicaid program to even more. that according to a former medicaid director who is raising concerns about section 2202 of the affordable care act. he says that section expands hospital used of the honor system when caring for the uninsured who then claimed that they fall into certain medicaid categories. if it is later found that the patient does not qualify for public assistance, the state is then responsible and then bistate we mean taxpayers. today marks the anniversary of president obama's reelection. but the white house still has little, if any reason to celebrate the second year of his second term. his job approval rating is down 40%, on par with george w. bush and the fall of his fifth year in office when he was reeling from the fallout of hurricane katrina. on wall street today, stocks mixed. the dow jones, a triple digit gain from a
another rough day for health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. >> access to healthcare.gov has miserably frustrating experience. i'm focused on fixing it. >> even democrats focused on a new website before month's end. >> it's a two way street. tell us what's going on fully. >> senate republicans siting months of ignored questions about potential problems and the possibility of insurance policy cancellations were more blunt. >> the only thing i can conclude is that it's impossible to do something in this administration is that gets you fired. >> democrat bill nelson demanded sebelius punish website designers. >> i want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible. >> but most of team obama care remains in place. the president's approval rating hovers in the low 40s. rivals george w. bush at the same stage of his presidency and right after hurricane katrina that. >> i need to be a doctor. >> hey do you have that obama care? >> oh what's that? >> it's great. >> carrie underwood and brad paisley at the country music a wards mocke
secretary astrazeneca continues to -- kathleen sebelius to sell the president's promise. sebelius says there is not a plan at this point. she says the administration is looking at its options. back to you. >> rich, more obamacare talk with entrepreneur we have coming on later. be interesting to hear the story you're talking about. rich, thank you from d.c. dagen: nerd alert. you guys will have to wait a little longtory see disney's first effort making a "star wars" film. 2015, summer blockbuster. show up in time for santa claus. connell: okay. that's big news. we'll talk about that and when it is all said and done, man, this typhoon, we talked about it yesterday. boy, was it horrible. ravaging the philippines. when said and done could be the biggest storm on record. the story is coming up. dagen: connell and i know how important sleep is but science is still trying to show us why lack of sleep is a productivity killer and we'll talk about that and learn how to sleep better. connell: wow, learn how to sleep. that would be great. dagen: we're going to roll a bed in here and everything. c
and unacceptable. yesterday the secretary of health and human services kathleen sebelius testified before the senate committee and tried to address some of those democratic concerns. >> while we don't have the fully functioning system yet that consumers need and deserve, we do have a plan in place to identify, pryorioritizeprioritize and manage the remaining fixes across the system. >> what we've receive the past week or so with more and more democrats coming out and trying to distance themselves not from the health care law itself which they all by and large still support, but from the way the website was rolled out and the way that the administration has handled the fallout from that. here's why democrats have concern. if you look at cbs exit polling from the virginia governor's race on tuesday, 53% of voters in that state said that they oppose the health care law and ken cuccinelli the republican won 81% of those voters. now, he still lost the race norah, charlie, and gayle, but not by as much as everyone expected. just two points. >> nancy cordes thank you.
came afternoon another rough day for congress's health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius. >> access to healthcare.gov has been a missably frustrating experience. it is not acceptable. i am know wassed or fixing it. >> even a friendly group want it to work. >> it's a two-way street. you have to tell us candidly what's going on. >> yes. >> ignoring questionsing the potential website problems and the possibility of insurance policy cancellations were more blunt. >> the only thing i can conclude is that it's impossible to do something in this administration that gets you fired. >> i want you to burn their fingers and make them pay for not being responsible. >> but most of team obama care remains in place. the president's approval rating now hovers in the low 40s and rivals george w. bush's at the same stage of his presidency and right after her hurricane katrina. >> i think i need to see a doctor. >> hey, you do have that obama care? >> obama care? what's that that oh, it's great. >> still, carrie underwood and brad paisley at the country music awards mocked on care to the tu
john boa boar aso calls kathleen sebelius, he is next. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7. i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! (cat screech) you feel that in your muscles? i do... drink water. it's a long story. well, not having branches let's us give you great rates and service. i'd like that. a new way to bank. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally. once wrote something on a sheet of paper and placed it in his factory for all to see. ♪ four simple words where the meaning has never been lost. the challenge always accepted. and the calling forever answered. ♪ introducing the all-new 2014 s-class. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. lou: a third gun manufacturing company has announced it is leaving the state of new york over governor andrew cuomo's sweeping new anti-gun laws. american tactical imports, the name of the firm is moving to south carolina taking a reported to have million dollars in recesses with it, one of the nat
their choice. >> that was kathleen sebelius yesterday being grilled over the president's broken promise. my next guest is forcing them to keep their word. johnson filed the if you like your plap you can keep it act. here with the details, the man himself, ron johnson, wisconsin senator. welcome back. >> hi, sean. >> if you like your plan you can keep it. i want my $2500 savings per family per year act. >> right. >> and the website will run easy act. can we do that? >> sean, this is about freedom. president obama's promise is being broken to millions of americans today. so my bill allows those americans to have the promise kept for them. they can actually keep their health care plan as president obama promised. that's the only way he was able to sell this to a gullible public unfortunately. i am encouraging my democratic colleagues to join with me quickly to pass the bill to presefb the health care plans before they are extinct. >> let's go to the president's words. he was so definitive. he said it so often, as recently as last month. if you like your plap you can keep your plan. >> right. >
kathleen sebelius should be fired. someone needs to be responsible. early from washington -- earl from washington said if they wanted obamacare to work they would have made it such a great deal they would want everyone to sign up, telling people they will get fined if they don't, and screwing them over when they say uncle, that is bad practice. >> and we love hearing from you, send me an e-mail gerri willis do thgerriwillis.com. obamacare getting a hollywood rewrite, in weeks, months and years, hollywood could not seem to shut up about it everyone from jennifer hudson to lady gaga campaigned for the law, but since the flop, celebrity world has gotten quiet until now. california endowment a private foundation spending a half million to promote obamacare stock make shire tv writers and producers have information about the affordable care act to be included in upcoming story lines of your favorite shows. imagine that! saying that young people will believe anything you put on tv. it's all a lit teal late. i'm not too sure that the troubles with obamacare stem from people not hearing enoug
. >>> health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius testifies later today before the senate finance committee. last week, she told members of the house that she was sorry for the obama care website debacle. she is expected to face a slightly more welcoming committee today, detailed progress to has been made to get healthcare.gov up and running again normally. >>> governor chris christie revealed on cnn tuesday that mitt romney apologized for leaked information that made its way into a tell-all book about the 2012 campaign. christie slammed the romney team for a complete violation of trust, much like someone leaving their cell phone on. >> i'm terribly sorry! >> the book "double down" reveals romney's team didn't pick him as running mate because his background was littered with political land mines. >> i have to till why phone is on silent. "early start" continues right now. >>> landslide victories in new jersey and new york. nail
news, it was another grilling on the hill today. health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius said that the government needed to fix hundreds of problems with the healthcare.gov. we're now learning that you'll have one less set of hands to tackle those issues. the chief officer who was in charge of the technology for the that developed the website has announced that he is retiring from the government. no word yet if he's being pushed out for his role in the sites development. >>> now for the buried lead, don't be surprised if you hear snoop dogg is buying a summer home in portland, maine. that city became the first city to quote, unquote, legalize marijuana. they're following in the foot steps of colorado and washington state which both voted to legalize recreational drug use last november. but what makes these cities a little different, they made something that was legal that was never illegal under statutes. but by passing these proposals, cities and towns have may a stronger leg to stand on in their efforts to change state laws that make it illegal to smoke pot. no wonder t
that kathleen sebelius saw coming, butacke saw coming as well. wh were they thinking? to louisiana republican senator, david vitter still trying to figure that out and more. i was not encouraged. were you? >> no, a lot of promises but nothinghanged in terms of reality. you have leading democratic senators like max baucus going after her, this iserious. it should be. this rollut this product is a bust. neil: have any of your colleagues gone to say, particularly the democtic ones, all right, you are the reason, you have to go? several republicans incding me have said that, i don't think any democrats have said. but you are seeing some khinks in thagin the armor. neil: do you think this thing, as we know it, the is dead? this law between the sloppy roll t, prohibited prices for folks, a lot of folks who are switching, it is not wit ready r primetime, they will start over or democrats fighting tooth and nail? >> well, i would certainly not y it is clear that it's either dead or up for major revisions, there is a lot of rhetori talk and promises, but no major changes to the law, the left is still
are not going to do that. neil: what do you think of your successor, kathleen sebelius, do you think she should go? >> i don't think that is up to me to say. neil: go ahead. >> no, no, she has a lot of problems and, i think you know, she needs to try to find a way to solv some of the problem. neil: but she is not, i am not trying to target her but she is in charge of department in charge of biggest rework. and fairly or not she botched it roll out either she was not prepared for it or they were not prepared with key i-t people or medical people, it is a sloppy debut, in private enterprise she would be out. >> yes, she would, when we rolled out part d he tested everything, week after week, any time we had a problem, we retested it, they just didn't do that. as a result they had a roll out that was not very nice. and solved -- or solved any of the problem. neil: that is putting it mildly, tommy thompson thank you, sir. >> neil thank you. neil: is it me or when you look at washington and politicians, if there plenty out there, they will find a way to spend it that is why president clinton a let'si
to be on this plan and put his epitire fan and kathleen sebelius and congress. they want out of obama care, while they insist i get it, they don't want to seem selfish and put themselves on it, but i found things to love about obama care after all. no kidding, you know what, i found out under obama care, i am going to have dental coverage for children. i saw this spot by delta dental from virginia. >> okay, okay. >> great, great. weather where would you like the baby car seat. >> no, i don't have kids. >> it doesn't matter the government said you have to buy it. >> where should i put. it >> smile, smile. >> yeah, you know the fact that my own children are grown and on theiron and have their own children is immaterial. i am man dated to carry dental insurance for the children we don't have. and while you think that is unnecessary, i found out under obama care, i also have maternitiy benefits. yes, (applause) it is man dated and so i am going to have it whether i ask for it or not. some people complain the government forcing me to buy something i can't or don't need much i am a glass half full. i s
business was an 800 word fact sheet the inherent authority of kathleen sebelius and they will consider the impact of the transitional policy in assessing on whether to extend it beyond 2014. >> i am highly skeptical that they can do this administratively. i don't so in the law to do. that? it is a congressional bill. >> and the past summer the employer delayed the employer man date he can it by providing transitional relief to selected citizens in a law's implementation. but the original obama care law signed in law march 2010 provided for people to cope the plans they had as of that date. it was a rule issued by secretary sebelius that changed the ground rules for which plans was grandfathered in and that little noticed rule is what the president went back on and with every right to do so since it was executive branch rule. >> it was his secretary that created the problems that we have today. she through rule, secretary sebelius did not comply with the statute. >> we'll get more on the president's so- called fix on obama care. is it possible to implement it. joining me is yamy weinste
numbers would be really bad, really weak, because that's what kathleen sebelius was saying. they have tried to low ball it as much as they can or inoculate against the numbers. what else can they do? >> not much else they can do. maybe release trend data. maybe they will show in the final week of october they finally saw as the web improved, going up. can feel better about you have 36 federal exchanges producing 50,000 enrollees and you have about 14 state-run exchanges because we do not have numbers out of california producing about the same. we know state exchanges working a lot better as far as website were concerned than federal ones. they may be able to take heart in that. they will have a much larger enrollment on medicate, that is performing level. my guess is they will be able to talk in those terms. the real key is going to be who are these enrollees. they need young, healthy people, the insurance companies do, for this to work. they can't just have it be folks with health problems, big users of the health system, to be the ones who are likely to be the early signees. that's
there was no integrated security testing before the launch. >> by the way, kathleen sebelius has testified there is no way a hacker could steal your social security number from this site. meanwhile, issa was denounced for his attacks on the health care law. >> house republicans shut down the entire federal government for three weeks in october. three weeks. shut down the government. they threatened to default on our national debts unless we repealed the affordable care act. now they're attempting to use the congressional oversight process to scare americans away from the website. nobody in this room, nobody in this country believes that republicans want to fix the website. for the past three years the number one priority of congressional republicans has been to bring down this law. and that goal, ladies and gentlemen, has not changed. >> congressman cummings joins us. when you sit with those people like your chairman of that committee, what do you sense is his game plan? is it cheap publicity? or is it actually into scaring so many people from participating in the program that he can help kill the success
. the defendant is kathleen sebelius's department of health and human services. they administer obama care. >> this is all over -- >> the religious liberty mandate. >> and the contraceptions employers will have to provide to employees. so the administration tells the court -- take out the legalese. what does it say? >> what they are saying basically is we have the grandfather provision. they don't say, by the way, that's what the president is relying on to say if you like your health care plan you can keep it, period. we have the this grandfather provision. but it's fading away. in fact, by the end of 2013, we anticipate that most of what was covered by the grandfather provision would lose their coverage. >> the shocking thing is it's not only those on the individual. it is most group health plans. >> they cite to a kaiser study about employer health plans. the whole thing. they cite to page in the federal register also about employer health plans and basically estimates that 7 of 10 people on the high end estimate who have employer health plansing get their coverage at work will close the
: on a conference call with reporters, human health and services kathleen e sebelius spoke with them. >> today we're confident we're on track to achieve that. if that changes, we will certainly let you know. >> reporter: under questioning from south carolina republican trey gowdy, the white house todd park offers no guarantees. >> when will it be operational to your satisfaction? >> well, we have a goal that the team is pursuing with tremendous intensity. >> how many more weeks? i'm looking for a number. >> we're looking to have the site functioning by the end of this month. >> another rinkle, four times as many americans signed up entirely funded by the government have signed up for private insurance overtime that could affect the financial stability of the law. later today they'll meet with senate democrats. for the first time they announced they will open to a legislati legislative, not administrative fix. charlie and norah? >> thank you, major. with us, cbs political analyst john dickerson, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> let's begin with the numbers. what do they tell us and what
exchanges. but the federal exchange, no money. in fact, juliette reports that kathleen sebelius couldn't find enough money to keep programmers under her wing and so what ended up happening was all of the responsibilities were fragmented to several offices in different locations. so what ends up happening is the train wreck that the republicans predicted would happen came true largely in part because of what republicans did to try to derail the law. now, that's not to say that there weren't mistakes, miscalculations, political timidity on the white house's part. but at least the white house is trying to do something affirmative, do something positive for people who don't have health insurance. the republicans have been trying to sabotage a law with no alternative to replace it with. >> and what you said just now interestingly enough seems to be where the american people are, jonathan. because if you look at the polls, the public still wants to give obama care a chance. 47% want to keep or expand the law. only 24% want to see the law repealed. and 13% say they want the law repealed and r
most of the world, actually read the federal register. and these regulations that kathleen sebelius had pushed through shortly after obama care became law. hobbling the ability of people to keep their plan, as the president claimed they would. you read it. you saw it. and you went to the senate floor to do what? >> i took a bill to repeal that particular provision so that people would be able to keep their insurance, that they were promised they could keep. this presidential mantra that goes on and on, the democrats believe. and as a result they defeated my repeal amendment. and so we're still stuck at this point with the same thing. >> how many democrats voted in favor of your proposal? >> every one of the democrats voted in favor of it. that puts america at risk and it should put their jobs at risk. >> they voted against your attempt to fix this regulation? >> that is right. my attempt to make what the president was saying come true, he didn't like it. he likes the mantra, the mantra was still on the white house website at 4:00 this afternoon, saying if you like what you have got, you
. on kathleen sebelius. what is the republican mission at this point? the website is making progress. it's handling more people, 17,000 people a minute. it's going to get better. obviously, it's better, since the last time there was testimony a week ago. what's the republican mission at this point? >> i think it's to create as much bad news and bad spin around the health care plan as they can to discourage people from going to it. it's sort of the last, you know -- last-ditch fight that they have. what's frustrating is that when you look at the individual states that have made this work, like kentucky, like rhode island, and then you look at these usually kind of states rights senators, and their own states had the chance to do this. they had the chance to make it right. they had the chance to do what rhode island did, and they didn't. they chose not to do it. they chose not to even try. >> they would -- >> so now they're blaming the federal government when they didn't even try to do it. if you're not going to do your job, you have got to be a little bit careful about blaming the people
president obama last night if he had full confidence in sebelius, this was his answer. >> i think kathleen sebelius under tremendously difficult circumstances over the last four and a half years has done a great job in setting up the insurance markets. >> is she still the right person to do it? >> ultimately the buck stops with me. i'm the president. this is my team. if it's not working, it's my job to get it fixed. >> joining me now, msnbc political director and chief white house correspondent chuck todd, msnbc political analyst and former rnc chair, michael steele, and democratic strategist kiki mclean. chuck, great interview, let's start with you. during that interview that you had with the president yesterday, completing this trifecta from the white house, speaker boehner says an apology is in order but what americans want to hear is that the president is going to keep his promise. republicans ask what does somebody have to do to get fired around here. ten republican senators have asked president obama to fire secretary sebelius. what's your thought here after that conversation. will f
. kathleen sebelius said, well, we have no specific plan but apparently they are considering, possibly subsidizing the insurance policies of people who required no subsidy on the individual insurance market and were fine with the plan until they were cancelled thanks to obama care. >> they are flailing around. a premium subsidy doesn't help if your deductible doubled. it doesn't help if you lost your docker to. the premium subsidies aren't a solution to begin with for people losing their doctors, seeing deductibles double. they are offering premium subsidies -- used to be for low income the people. now they are offering it to middle income people to cover health insurance they don't want or need. we are going to build a taxpayer now just not for low income people to get substance abuse care and but we'll do it for middle income people, too. so let's bill the taxpayer for the disaster. >> and there is a real question about whether there is more money for that kind of thing. >> yeah. >> and can president obama do it by executive order, get the approval of the congress for his so-called f
. >> does the obama administration need to get its story straight? president obama and secretary kathleen sebelius seem to be sending some mixed messages. >> before the affordable care act these bad apple insurers had free reign. >> the affordable care act is not going to be the reason why insurers have to cancel your plans. >> we are going to help folks whose old plans have been cancelled by the insurers. >> i don't think there is any blame on insurance companies. they were trying to follow the law. >> i think it's legitimate for them to have to expect me to win back credibility on this healthcare law. >> he doesn't need to win it back. >> editor bob cusack joins us. >> hi, greta. >> that was rough. i mean, the president says he needs to win back his credibility. secretary sebelius says doesn't. maybe she is being plight or maybe he is being plight. i don't know, not good. they should be on the same page, at least. >> it's tough for the white house this is an old play in the playbook to go after the insurance companies. we saw that during the bill's passage in 2009 to 2010. the insurance
. this is not the big issue for health care as we move forward. >> this is what kathleen sebelius had to say on the "the daily rundown." >> so it's a relatively small but for those people it's real. i think the president felt keeping the commitment people should be able to stay on their own plans is something he felt was important. >> so that was from an event in detroit today. clearly such an uncomfortable position for cabinet secretary. >> true. relatively few number of people, goes to the heart of the credibility how it was sold. not complicated, going on amazon, get a new plan, keep your plan if you like it. that has proven not to be the case. the bigger issue here, if young healthy people are not signing up, the whole thing doesn't work. if they are keeping to their own plans, which obama care in washington says are substandard it doesn't work. they have a website that doesn't work. so the big question is when does this start working. democrats on the hill doesn't know the answer to that, the president doesn't know the answer to that. >> as susan page was saying yesterday, when you start pulling on
that the regulations by kathleen sebelius were eliminating the grandfather clause. and nobody listened. i mean, they literally had nothing to do with the cancellation of the policies. >> and now what liberal democrats are saying to the president is man up, dude, you have to get out there and say this is the plan. but it is hard to blame republicans for that one, so he is going to keep crawfishing. >>> all right, health care going up for millions of americans as we learned price is may be going down for one political ally of president obama. joining me now, ron johnson, who was able to prevent the tax exemption care. this is something the unions have complained about for months now, saying oh, the bill, the law we love so much, the obama care turns out it could be bad for us because it will tax us to the tune of $25 billion, unions and other small businesses. and the president, first they asked him to give them subsidies, he said i can't do that under the law. and now he is trying to give them major, major tax breaks, and you're trying to stop it, how. >> i'm a very willing co-sponsor, what the
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